Beerus vs Sailor Galaxia
The FORBIDDEN Death Battle Prediction Blog Episode 14
Prediction 3
Beerus vs Sailor Galaxia
First things first, a big thank you to TabithaTwitchit, artist of the awesome bit of artwork you see above! Also, great choice of handles. Beatrix Potter is great!
Now, on with the show!
Thank you God, Galactus remains reserved for Unicron. As he should be.
On the downside, I’m working in my blindspot here. My anime and manga tastes are more Leiji Matsumoto and Shotaro Ishinomori.
There’s a good chance I’m going to eat crow here.
Goodbye, perfect record…
So I guess the theme here is powerful, evil characters that nonetheless have even higher powers that they answer to. The difference is that Sailor Galaxia is proactive in her duties and plots to backstab her boss while Beerus is fine with his boss but is comedically lazy in his duties.
(Don’t even message me about Beerus being “neutral.” You don’t ping for neutral alignment when you’re responsible for planetary genocide.)
The theme is okay, I guess.
But I think we all know the real draw here is Dragon Ball vs Sailor Moon. We got a powerful DBS character against the first magical girl in Death Battle history. It’s a fandom fight, the theme be damned. Beerus wins, and all the Sailor Moon wank on the internet gets a Ben-10 level humbling. Sailor Galaxia wins, and Dragon Ball fans have someone to hate besides Superman.
I get a little pile of salt at the end of this like a Roman centurion on payday, so all’s well that ends well.
You think we’re going to get “Sailor Moon too OP how is this Mary Sue popular?” threads?
But let’s get down to it.
In the duel between space chihuahua and space trashlady, who wins?
Well, I think I’m actually going to have to back the space chihuahua.
Yeah. I’m backing the DBS character.
2020 has just been such a year, hasn’t it?
Galaxia is Manga Only.
A recent Death Battle podcast revealed that, because the manga and anime versions of Galaxia are so different (and they really are), they’re only going to use the manga version.
That didn’t stop you guys from giving Leo feats by amalgamating explicitly unique versions of himself that exist in a multiverse and interact with each other, but thanks for making my part easier.
This ruling hurts Galaxia a lot since it means she’s not able to do this bit of bullshit that happened in the second-to-last episode of the anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJljbX-9RKA&feature=youtu.be&t=71
If you don’t want to watch the link, what happens is that Sailor Galaxia fights transexual (transvestite in the manga) Sailor Scouts across the Milky Way. They turn into balls of light and soar across the galaxy. It’s not a major power feat unless you go crazy and assign galaxy-blasting power to explosions that don’t put a single start out of place, but it is one hell of a speed feat. We’re talking crossing astronomical units in seconds. Even with the caveat that Galaxia has to turn into a ball of light to accomplish this and likely sacrifices the power of her human form to do so, it’s still a really, really good speed feat.
But since we’re only using the manga, Galaxia doesn’t get to use it.
Who Is More Powerful?
Beerus.
If you’re reading this blog, you’re probably aware of Beerus’s powers and feats. I despise the zombie franchise that is Dragon Ball Super, but even I know about him just from hanging around the corners of the internet that want to know if Batman can beat Captain Kirk and if Herbie can beat Christine.
Beerus can blow up a planet with a sneeze (how very Silver Age Superman!), destroy half a planet by tapping his finger, and his fights with Goku and his brother Champa are said to threaten entire universes.
Most infamously, he created shockwaves during his fight with Goku that destroyed surrounding planets and propagated to the ends of the universe. This is sometimes used as “proof” that Beerus can blow up a universe in a few punches. But it’s worth noting that the waves didn’t do anything more than make things shake beyond the planets close to Beerus and Goku. The body count of Beerus’ “universe level” feat is 0.
Yeah yeah, “King Kai said the next few shockwaves would totally destroy the universe!” But they didn’t.
King Kai was wrong. He’s been wrong about a lot of stuff. “Planet Vegeta was destroyed by its guardian. Oh no! Goku surely died when Namek blew up, I can’t sense his energy!” The guy isn’t infallible. He’s just Dragon Ball’s Joe Rogan. And we see the “universe killing shockwaves” propagate. They didn’t take out the universe. They didn’t even take out the galaxy.
Don’t get me wrong, Beerus is totally capable of destroying a universe. But he can’t do it all at once. He’s like a more powerful Buu. Buu also threatened the universe with extermination. His modus operandi was to teleport to planets and stars, blow himself up, reform, and repeat. Sure, it would take a long time for him to pull it off, but he could do it (and given the paucity of life in Universe 7, it’s possible it’s smaller than our real-life universe which would help Buu out a lot). Beerus is a similar case to Buu. He can take out a universe if you give him enough time.
But Beerus has enough power to put himself over Galaxia without resorting to universe-killing punches.
The biggest thing Galaxia ever blew up on panel is her homeworld (that famous panel where she points at it and it explodes). In dialog, it’s implied that she’s also blown up stars. That’s…honestly not that impressive by the standards of DBS.
There’s an evident scale difference between Galaxia and Beerus. Galaxia wanted to get Sailor Moon’s silver crystal in the hopes that combining it with her sapphire crystal would let her destroy her boss Chaos, and then use the Milky Way as a base to attack the rest of the universe. But Beerus already operated on a universe-wide scale.
If we are generous to Galaxia, she can blow up chunks of a galaxy. If we are generous to Beerus, he can blow up chunks of a universe.
Who Is Faster?
Beerus.
Now, personally, I think Dragon Ball speeds are generally overblown. The characters are certainly faster than light, but not by much. Dypso, the purple rabbit member of the antagonist Super Sentai team, went FTL and it was treated as a huge deal. Frieza: Gold Version struggled to keep up. We know that Dypso was faster than light because the little pill-boy god of the multiverse and his timeline double (Dragon Ball is a weird series) couldn’t record his movements on their Ipads named Godpads (Again, weird series). Dypse moved faster than light, therefore there wasn’t any light to record.
But if you’re familiar with Death Battle, you know they calculate Dragon Ball characters as really, really fast. You see, Piccolo blew up the moon during the Saiyan Saga and if you multiply the speed Goku demonstrated traveling Snake Way and then factor in stat increases from his multitude of forms and then wish upon a star while standing on your head and run the whole thing through Excel even Yamcha ends up being 9 trillion billion nana fanna bo banna times the speed of light.
Beerus’ speed calc is going to have a lottttt of zeroes behind it is what I’m saying.
How does that compare to Galaxia?
Really well. Really well even if you use Dypso to limit Beerus’ speed.
Galaxia hardly moves at all in the manga. She spends her arc teleporting behind Sailor Moon’s friends and nothing-personal-kid-ing them before having a brief scuffle with Sailor Moon that ends when Chaos decides Galaxia has outlived her usefulness. So, speed wise you’re stuck scaling Galaxia to Sailor Moon.
Sailor Moon doesn’t have much in the way of speed feats outside LOOK AT THIS LASER BEAM. The big one is when she, the Sailor Star Lights, and Sailor Kakyuu (everyone forgets about her) grew magic wings to fly from Earth to the super massive black hole in the center of our galaxy. The logic goes that since Galaxia wasn’t speed-stomped by Sailor Moon, then she should be able to move at speeds that’ll let her move across astronomical units.
Three problems with this:
- We don’t know how long it took Sailor Moon’s group to reach the center of the Milky Way and we don’t know if they used any teleportation. Teleportation is a thing in the setting after all. Galaxia does it, the Sailor Scouts do it, the Dark Kingdom goons in the first arc did it, etc.
- She doesn’t use her wings to fight with. This is one of those times “travel speed vs combat speed” would have validity as an argument.
- The big one–Sailor Moon never fought Galaxia with her wings.
Let me repeat that. Galaxia fought a wingless Sailor Moon.
Oh yeah. That’s a knock to her speed.
(Act 59, Stars 10, pages 1-12 if you don’t believe me. You see any space-travel wings out? I don’t.)
Beerus thus has a much stronger claim to be really fast than Galaxia. Unless Death Battle is REALLY generous to Galaxia off Sailor Moon’s trip to the center of the Milky Way, Beerus is going to speed-stomp her. He even has the better teleportation since Dragon Ball characters have been shown to chain multiple teleports while Galaxia hasn’t.
Who Can Take More Damage?
Beerus.
We’ve never really seen Beerus harmed. We’ve never seen him hit a ceiling durability wise. In the anime, Galaxia is put on her knees and made to bleed from the Star Lights blasting her. But we aren’t using the anime, so this actually works in her favor. This means her entire fight history consisted of trading blows with Sailor Moon and then dying to Chaos. That helps her by keeping her durability really vague.
That being said, we can safely say that Galaxia, and other Sailor Scouts for that matter, have a hard ceiling at black hole level. We know this because to get to the Galaxy Cauldron inside the supermassive black hole at the heart of our galaxy, they all have to walk through a magic space door. They don’t dive into it.
It’s also worth noting that Galaxia never withstood anywhere close to Sailor Moon’s most powerful attacks.
Don’t believe me?
Let’s review Sailor Moon’s big boss killing attacks and the circumstances that brought them about.
And yes, the names of the attacks are real.
Arc 1, Queen Metalia vs Unnamed Attack
Channeling the power of the silver crystal, the big magic artifact of the ancient Silver Millenium civilization that existed on the Moon and Sailor Moon’s personal power source, Sailor Moon destroys a being of energy-absorbing darkness that came out of a sunspot and was gradually absorbing the planet and turning people into violent, hateful savages. It was sort of like a mystical representation of the relationship the DNC has with Antifa.
I would classify this attack as sub-planetary level, especially when you take into account that Sailor Moon was struggling with Queen Metalia until Kunzite told her to aim for the black diamond in her forehead which turned out to be the source of her power.
Arc 2, Wiseman vs Double Moon Princess Halation
Wiseman is the cloaked mastermind behind the Black Moon Clan, a evil faction from the 30th century who were exiled to the 10th planet of the solar system (known in real life conspiracy theory and occult circles as Planet X, Nebiru, Xibalba, and Nemesis). The writer picked Nemesis as the name for the planet, likely because it’s obviously the coolest name.
It turns out that he’s more than just a spooky scary skeleton with a cloak. Because Nemesis is made of energy-absorbing black crystal, he was able to merge himself with the planet.
He’s cooler than Ego. I’m just saying.
So this time, instead of Earth becoming an evil energy-absorbing creature, another planet becomes an evil energy-absorbing creature and then tries to eat Earth.
Sailor Moon isn’t the best written series.
Sailor Moon combines her silver crystal with the pink crystal of her daughter from the 30th century to blow up Nemesis. This would make Sailor Moon half-a-planet level, and that’s assuming Nemesis is the size of Earth. In the anime, Nemesis is depicated as being about the size of an asteroid and that’s matching with other popular depictions of Planet X where its Pluto sized.
(For those that must point out that an extra planet to the solar system would be the 9th planet, Pluto was still a planet when Sailor Moon was written. It even had its own Sailor Pluto!)
Arc 3, Pharaoh 90 vs …well, Sailor Moon doesn’t actually defeat him…
Pharaoh 90 is an energy-absorbing being of darkness (again?) who came from the Tau Nebula (See? It’s different now! It’s not a planet, its a nebula!). He and his faction, the Death Busters (best evil faction name in the series) want to consume Earth and make it part of their nebula.
Pharaoh 90 manifested via possession of a genetic scientist and later grew to possess the planet, which more or less made him Queen Metalia with the added threat of a nebula.
He was stopped by Sailor Saturn binding and damaging him which caused him to retreat to the Tau Nebula. Then Sailor Pluto sealed the worm hole to it. This makes Pharaoh 90 the only boss villain to survive the series…kind of. All the bosses ended up being aspects of Chaos so maybeeee Pharaoh 90 got absorbed back into Chaos or maybe Pharaoh 90 is what eventually becomes the being known as Sailor Chaos that an adult Chibiusa fights in the far future, I don’t know. I doubt the writer knew either.
…You know how Cable and the Summers from X-Men have a convoluted and confusing relationship with time? That. Think that for Sailor Moon. Chibiusa is girly Cable.
Soooooo moving right along…
Arc 4, Queen Nehelenia vs Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss.
Queen Nehelenia was easily the coolest boss in the series. She wasn’t a big energy-absorbing wad of darkness, she was an evil elf witch trapped in a mirror. She also had the coolest faction–the Dead Moon Circus.
It’s an evil nightmare circus! What more could you possibly want?
Nehelenia might also be the toughest boss in the series as it took Sailor Moon going all out to defeat her. Sailor Moon needed:
- Her silver crystal.
- The powers of the inner and outer Sailor Scouts.
- The powers kept in the castles of each Sailor Scout.
- The pink crystal.
- The gold crystal her boyfriend Mamoru ended up possessing the whole time but never realized it.
How powerful was the attack resulting from channeling all these energy sources? It’s hard to tell. Some people say it was powerful enough to destroy the mirror-world trapping Neheleina, but the world-behind-the-mirror wasn’t actually destroyed by Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss, only Neheliena herself. The mirror Neheleina was trapped in also didn’t constitute all of the world-behind-the-mirror as in her arc we see an astral-projected peagasus unicorn man (Sailor Moon is a weird series) travel through mirrors without passing through Neheleina’s world and Neheliena’s minions spy on the Sailor Scouts using mirrors again without passing thorough Neheleina’s world.
Mirror-universe killing attack? I don’t think so.
Still, Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss is easily the most powerful move in the series.
Now before we get into Arc 5 with Sailor Galaxia, what can we determine about Sailor Moon’s power level?
From just her silver crystal, she seems around planet level, and her most powerful attacks rely on her drawing on the powers of her friends. Keep this in mind.
Now we move onto arc 5, Sailor Galaxia vs Silver Moon Crystal Power Therapy Kiss.
This attack was parried by Galaxia’s own attacks, and powerwise was wayyyyyyy below Sailor Moon’s other finishing moves. You have to remember, during her fight with Galaxia Sailor Moon couldn’t channel the power of her friends because they were all transformed into jewlery at the time.
No friends, no power.
In terms of durability and power output, it’s not that Sailor Galaxia scales to Sailor Moon, its that Sailor Moon scales to Sailor Galaxia.
But Wait, Can’t Sailor Galaxia Attack Through Time and Across Dimensions and Stuff?
You have scans circulating of so say, Sailor Moon’s future self from a 30th century utopia saying that Galaxia’s actions in the past (the present of the story) are causing disturbances in the present (the future of the story) and of Chibiusa telling Sailor Moon that everyone in the 30th century is turning into a star seed. From these, people think that Sailor Galaxia can attack through time.
The first thing, the very first thing does in the manga, is turn Mamoru into a starseed. That’s what sets up disturbances in the future as Mamoru is supposed to marry Sailor Moon and create Crystal Tokyo which becomes the new capital of a utopian Earth.
You can’t really do that when you’re a star seed.
Saying that Sailor Galaxia can attack through time is like saying someone in DC can attack across time by killing Superman thus changing the 30th century.
…Hey, DC has a utopian 30th century based on technology, and Sailor Moon has a utopian 30th century based on magic…maybe Tezuka wasn’t the only big-name manga artist into Superman?
But anyway, Sailor Galaxia cannot travel back and time and kill an adorable kitten Beerus. Nor can she shoot a wave of energy through time fragging kitten Beerus either.
Can Hakai Work on Sailor Galaxia?
Beerus is what’s known in Dragon Ball as a god of destruction, and I have to hand it to the writers, that’s kind of clever. I’ve always thought recursive acronyms were cool. You know, “BOB means Beware of BOB” and stuff like that?
Oh wait.
They’re called Hakaishin in the original Japanese. And the dub calls them Destroyers.
Now there isn’t a single ounce of intelligence in DBS’ writing.
Oh well.
Hakaishin have a power called hakai. It hakais things when the hakaishn say hakai.
You’d think the big “destroy anything” ability would have a cooler name than just “destruction,” but that’s what you get when you drag a franchise that should have ended after Cell Saga beyond its breaking point.
Hakai is a big wave of energy that makes people and things disintegrate into. No one in the series has demonstrated straight immunity to it, but it has been blocked by ki attacks. The question is, can Beerus hakai Galaxia for an instakill?
Some say no, not based on any direct feat of Galaxia’s but on scaling her to Sailor Moon, which as I demonstrated earlier is rather iffy considering Galaxia never fought a full-power Sailor Moon.
You see, Sailor Moon’s boss fights tend to involve the bad guys trying to absorb the planet. See Metallia, see Wiseman, see Pharaoh 90. This means you have a lot of scenes of buildings around the Sailor Scouts vanishing/disintegrating while they themselves are unharmed.
But that’s not exactly “resisting kill-anything energy.”
Still, Galaxia can block hakai with her energy attacks. Hakai has been nullified by energy getting in its way before. Just look at when Toppo (El Toppo is not a western) fought Vegeta for an example. But eventually, Beerus’ speed is going to allow him to get a hit in.
But lets give Galaxia the benefit of the doubt and say she can straight up “lol nope” hakai.
What about the sapphire crystal she wears on her arm that powers her abilities like a Green Lantern ring? Can Beerus use hakai on it?
Is there a precedent for power jewelry in Sailor Moon being destroyed and then in turn destroying those that wield them?
Yeah actually.
That’s how Sailor Galaxia dies. Chaos attacks her and Sailor Moon, Chaos cracks her crystal, Galaxia goes “Oh shit I need to reach it ahhhh I can’t its too bright” and disintegrates.
Ultraguy’s blog says that the sapphire cracked because she had an epiphany that Earth mattered and that she was wrong to pull cosmic genocide, but is that what really happened? I’m looking at the manga and I can’t find any statement on the sapphire turning on its wielder if they think happy thoughts.
You also have supporting evidence for the sapphire being destroyable from Queen Metalia. Sailor Moon had trouble hurting her until Kuzite told her “shoot the big evil diamond, that’s what powers her!” Metallia’s diamond didn’t have the durability of Metallia herself, and its reasonable to think the same applies to Galaxia’s sapphire.
I’m confident that if hakai can’t directly affect Galaxia (and I rather think it should) then at the very least it can affect Galaxia’s sapphire.
Would Beerus think of using hakai on the sapphire? I’d say so. He can sense energy like other DBS characters. He should be able to tell that the sapphire is powering Galaxia. Even if you make the argument that Galaxia’s energy is magic and not ki meaning Beerus wouldn’t be able to sense it, the sapphire is still a glowing gem on her arm that shoots energy when she attacks.
It wouldn’t take a genius to think “maybe that glowing thing is powering her?”
Can Galaxia Steal Beerus’ Star Seed?
In Sailor Moon’s cosmology, everything is made of jewelry called star seeds that are created inside a cauldron in the center of the Milky Way and propagate throughout the universe. Everything from planets to animals to people are born from star seeds, and these star seeds persist inside places and beings in an underdeveloped form. Sailor Scouts have developed star seeds that manifest as their power crystals.
Not the weirdest cosmology I’ve seen.
In the manga, Galaxia can reduce people and places to star seeds. This is a passive ability of her powers and even her minions can do it. You get hit with one of her attacks, you get reduced to a star seed. You have to block her attacks with magic blasts to prevent that from happening.
The question is, can Galaxia reduce Beerus to a little purple star seed with cat ears?
I don’t think so.
Galaxia’s star seed trick relies on using her universes’ cosmology. Her star seed trick working on Beerus would be like Shang-Tsung stealing the soul of a character from a setting where people don’t have souls or have souls that are distinct from their personhood (my own setting being an example! See Spectro’s story for details. I gotta get some advertising out of these Death Battle things! Death Battle has Door Dash, I have The Power of Stardust).
We’ll see how Death Battle interprets how star seeds function across universes. There’s a chance Glaxia could be allowed to reduce Beerus to a star seed. But even if she is, I don’t see it influencing the fight enough to matter. Beerus is just too ahead of her on stat fundamentals.
Can Galaxia Kill Beerus by Supreme Kai?
This is a weird wincon for Galaxia, and frankly I really love it for how creative it is. If Death Battle does kill Beerus, I hope this would be the way they do it just because of how fun it would be to watch.
It works like this: Gods of Destruction are bonded to the Supreme Kais of their respective universes. If the Supreme Kai dies, they die, and so they have a vested interest in making sure their space elf buddy doesn’t buy it (way to really sleep on the job during Buu Saga, Beerus).
Galaxia can read minds. Therefore, if she reads Beerus’ mind while fighting him, she can figure out Beerus’ connection to Supreme Kai, teleport to wherever he his, kill him, and by extension kill Beerus.
But this relies on Galaxia precisely reading Beerus mind to determine:
- Beerus’ relationship with the Supreme Kai.
- Who the Supreme Kai is.
- Where the Supreme Kai is.
And she would have to pull this off while a cranky space chihuahua is trying to kill her.
I just don’t see her pulling it off.
There’s also the question of whether or not it violates the “neutral universe” principle of Death Battle. If Supreme Kai is allowed to be involved, then why can’t Goku and friends also be involved? As fun as it is, I feel Supreme Kai’s inclusion would open up a can of worms rules wise.
So Who Wins?
I’m putting my chips behind the space chihuahua. He’s harder, better, faster, and stronger than Galaxia. His instakill move has a higher chance of working and his powers aren’t tied to a crystal on his arm that can be destroyed.
Am I confident in my prediction? Reasonably so, especially after the anime got nixed from Galaxia’s corner. I’m about as confident as I was with Wonder Woman vs She-Ra.
And hey, the gods of synchronicity are in my corner. Wonder Woman vs She-Ra involved dubious feats associated with a magic artifact called the starseed, and Beerus vs Galaxia involves dubious feats associated with magic artifacts called star seeds.
You can feel it, can’t you?
This is my time. This is my hour of power.
I’m right.
Yeah.
Yeah I’m sure I’m right.
…My record is toast, isn’t it?
You suck just as much as death battle